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Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Vedic Numerology

Vedic Numerology

-PVR Narasimha Rao

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Hi Friends,

Namaste to all of you after a long hiatus!

English language is as unscientific and as unsystematic as any language can get. The ordering of letters (a, b, c, d etc) has no phonological significance whatsoever. No numerological theory that hinges on this alphabet order is meaningful.

Similarly, the Gregorian calendar is equally stupid. Between April 6 of one year and April 6 of another year, there may or may not be any astronomical similarity. It is an *arbitrary* calendar which attempts to address only some mundane issues. OTOH, the solar, lunar and savana (fixed) calendars of India (and much of the old world) have a sound astronomical basis. Again, no numerological theory that hinges on this arbitrary calendar can be meaningful.

So numerology as practiced by many people today (based on English alphabet and dates as per the Gregorian calendar) is just nonsense.

The name analysis given in the exchange between Anjaneya and Robyn is an example of the systematic approach of Vedic numerology. I want to write a little more on this for the benefit of those who are interested in genuine Vedic numerology.

Well, the nama rasi (name sign) does not have to "fit" with Chandra lagna or anything else. It just so happened in your case.

We can judge the natal planetary positions using nama rasi of a person to see which indications of the natal chart receive support from the name. In fact, we can also see the nama rasi corresponding to a work or venture by a native (e.g. name of a book, name of a company etc) to see the impact of that work or venture on the native.

As it is always easier to learn from real examples, I will give a few. Before I proceed, here is the table for a quick reference, in case you don't have Sanjay ji's "Jaimini Maharishi's Upadesa Sutras" book:

Table 1 Katapayaadi Varga

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1. Take Pt. Sanjay Rath's chart (7th August 1963, 9:14:50 pm (IST), 83e58, 21n27). His second book "Crux of Vedic Astrology: Timing of Events" was popularly known as "COVA" and he became very popular in the world of Jyotish after that book.

COVA (kovaa) has two consonants - k and v. They stand for 1 and 4 respectively. Reversing the order, it is 41. Dividing by 12, remainder is 5. This shows Leo. So Leo is the rasi that shows how this book is known. What is its impact on Sanjay ji's natal chart?

In his natal rasi chart, Leo contains Mercury (writing) and it is aspected by GL (Ghati Lagna - shows power and fame). This shows becoming very popular as a writer. Writing a book that was known as "COVA" made him famous as a writer.

2. Take the chart of SJVC (10th September 1998, 9:35 am (IST), New Delhi, India). SJVC's first major venture is the "Jyotish Digest" magazine. Let us say this magazine becomes wellknown as "JD" (like Astrological Magazine is known as AM and Express Star Teller as EST). What will it then do to SJVC?

The two consonants j and d show 8 and 3. Dividing 38 by 12, we get 2 as the remainder. It shows Taurus as the nama rasi of JD. Judge the impact of Taurus on SJVC chart.

It is the 8th house of the SJVC chart showing hard work and research. The venture known as "JD" will make SJVC work hard and spread occult knowledge. Taurus contains GL and has argala from the raja yoga giving planets in Leo. This shows that JD will make SJVC very popular and famous.

But, it does not aspect HL (hora lagna - money) and, moreover, it is the 12th from AL (arudha lagna) showing expediture. This does not really show SJVC making a lot of money on this venture. The financial gains of SJVC from JD may be modest, but the fame and contribution to the spreading of occult knowledge will be immense.

3. I've been using the abbreviation "JHora" for the upcoming "Jagannatha Hora" software to be released by SJVC. The nama rasi of "JHora" is Pisces (j, h, r = 8, 8, 2=288. Remainder is 0,

i.e. 12). Because HL in SJVC chart is in Sagittarius and Pisces contains HL lord Jupiter and aspects HL, this venture known as "JHora" is likely to be financially profitable. Jupiter and Pisces also show that this venture will go towards establishing the teachings of maharshis. Perhaps the retrogression of Jupiter in Pisces is one factor slowing down this JHora venture. The software is almost ready, but so many hurdles in finishing it.

  1. My own birthdata is: 4th April 1970, 5:47:20 pm (IST), 81e8, 16n10. My full name is "P.V.R. Narasimha Rao". In my childhood, I was known by a nickname of "Babji". The syllables in it are B[aab] and J[ee]. The numbers of b and j are 3 and 2, i.e. 23. The remainder when 23 is divided by 12 is 11, i.e. Aquarius. Aquarius is the 6th house in my natal chart with Moon and Rahu. I did not enjoy good health. But Moon is AK (atma karaka) and is aspected by Jupiter (Libra) and raja yoga planets in Aries. Because of AK and Jupiter, I learnt traditional knowledge so effortlessly as if I was remembering it from my past life. By an age of 11, I obtained 2 diplomas equivalent to a bachelor's degree in Sanskrit literature, one of them with distinction. It also helped that Aq was the strongest sign in the SAV (Samudaya AshtakaVarga) of my natal rasi chart.

  2. During the ages of 13-21, I was known as PVR (pee vee aar) - my initials. You can see that p, v, r gives 1, 4, 2, i.e. 241. The remainder when 241 is divided by 12 is 1. This shows Aries. Aries, with 4 planets, has all the raja yogas of my chart. It is also aspected by AK (atma karaka - Moon here). It was a great period and I succeeded in everything I tried.

  3. When I came to USA for masters (1991-93), people started calling me Rao(raav). This is just one syllable with the leading consonant being R(2). The nama rasi is Taurus. From Taurus, my raja yogas are in 12th. This period was not so good. It was a period of disillusionment and change in life.

  4. Since I returned to USA in 1995, I've been known as "Narasimha". This has 4 syllables -"N[a] R[a] S[im] H[a]". The leading consonants in the four syllables are n, r, s and h, which stand for 0, 2, 7 and 8 respectively. The number 8720 gives a remainder of 8 when divided by 12. This shows Scorpio. Scorpio aspects the raja yogas in Aries. The Mahayogada of my natal chart (Sun) owns the 10th from Scorpio and occupies 5th from it. This shows professional success. Ketu in 10th from Scorpio shows spiritual (Ketu) activities in society (10th). With Scorpio containing AL and various important sahamas (Vidya - education, Yasas - fame, Gaurava - respect, Rajya - kingdom, Karma - profession, Samartha - enterprise), this is a key sign.

  5. Take Bill Gates (28th October 1955, 9:25 pm (PST), 122w20, 47n36). Had he been known as "William" or "William Gates", his nama rasi would've been Taurus. With Taurus being the 12th house with Ketu in it, his spirituality would've prospered. Instead, he is known as "Bill Gates" (syllables: B[il] G[aets]) and the nama rasi is Sagittarius, containing HL (money) and aspected by Yogada Mercury and Mars. The name is more conducive to the entrepreneur in him than the spiritual person in him. Leo is the strongest sign in his SAV. It is the 3rd house of enterprise. It contains HL lord (bringer of money) and aspects GL and GL lord (power). It is a key sign and brings money through enterprise and power through money. Incidentally, nama rasi of his company Microsoft (syllables: M[aik] R[oe] S[oft]) is Leo! This company brought him moeny and power.

  6. Exercise for the interested: A native has the following chart -

Sg: Lagna; Cp: Sat, Jup; Aq: Ket; Ta: Ven; Ge: Merc, HL; Cn: Sun; Le: Mar, Rah; Li: Gulika, Mandi; Sc: GL.

a. Hypothetically, let us say he founded a company called "Thank Engines". Find the nama rasi of the venture and judge if it brings him money or not.

b. Suppose the company's first product is called "Tip One Thousand". Find the nama rasi of the product and judge if this is the product that brings him a lot of money.

c. If he is considering "Tip Two Thousand" and "Tip Three Thousand" for the name of the next product, what will you advise? Find the nama rasis of the two names and judge which one is better.

Ruling Planets:

In addition to seeing how the rasi corresponding to the name fits with the native's chart, you can also see if the first letter is chosen properly. Ruling planet of the first letter is as important as the ruling of sign of the whole name. For that, use the planetary rulerships of the first letter.

The k-group (k, kh, g, gh, ng), i.e. gutturals, are ruled by Mars. The ch-group, i.e. palatals is ruled by Venus. The alveolar/cerebral t-group is ruled by Mercury. The dental t-group is ruled by Jupiter. The p-group, i.e. labials is ruled by Saturn. Sun rules vowels and Moon rules semi-vowels and sibilants. Within each group, there are 5 letters. For example, k-group has k, kh, g, gh and n(g). These are the voiceless, voiceless aspirated, voiced, voiced aspirated and nasal sounds. They are respectively sub- lorded by Saturn (air), Mars (fire), Mercury (earth), Venus (water) and Jupiter (ether).

Let us revisit the previous example: We saw that SJVC's venture known as JD (Jyotish Digest) has Taurus as nama rasi and Taurus contains GL in the chart. In addition, its first sound "J" is lorded by Venus and sub-lorded by Mercury. These two planets (1st and 9th lords) have a raja yoga within half a degree in SJVC chart (for all the data, see the original post with this title). Moreover, Venus owns lagna and GL and is a Yogada promising power and authority. This supports the conclusions drawn from nama rasi!

In Bill Gates chart, we saw that nama rasi of Microsoft was the sign containing the maximum score in SAV, containing HL lord and aspecting GL. Moreover, the sound "m" is lorded by Saturn who is exalted in GL, joined by dispositor Venus. The first letter of his name (b) is also lorded by exalted Saturn in GL. Had he been known as William Gates or Will Gates, Moon would've been the planet (not as strong as exalted Saturn in GL).

In my own case, Saturn was the ruling planet of the name when I was known as "PVR". Neecha bhanga raja yoga Saturn's influence dominated then. OTOH, the first letter of "Narasimha" is lorded and sub-lorded by Jupiter in the 2nd house. The period when I was known as Narasimha was also the period when my interest in astrology became deep.

The ruling sign and ruling planet of the name by which most people call us decide which aspects of our natal charts get stressed. The ruling sign and ruling planet of the name we give to our ventures (companies or books or magazines etc) decide how those ventures activate various aspects of our natal charts.

Rules of Decomposition

Let us say C (C1, C2 etc) represents a consonant, and V a vowel. Then any syllable that is not the first in a word will be of the form

C1 V [C2] [C3] [C4]...

Whatever is in paranthesis is optional. It may or may not be there. But a consonant (C1) and a vowel (V) will always start the syllable. Here C1 is the main consonant of the syllable and its number should be taken. If you have multiple consonants together (e.g. "vy" in "kavya"), only the last one remains in the syllable and others will be the trailing consonants of the previous syllable. For example, "kavya" becomes "kav" + "ya".

The first syllable of a word is of a different form. It is of the form:

[C1] V [C2] [C3]...

Here C1 (leading consonant) is also optional (along with the trailing consonants at the end, which are always optional). If it is present, take its number. If not, take 0.

Another case is that there may be more consonants before C1 (e.g. sravya). If there are, ignore them. Technically, they are like the second half of a truncated previous syllable. For example, sravya is basically s + rav + ya. The first letter "s" is not a complete syllable and hence clubbed in the first syllable as "srav". However, it does not become the leading consonant of "srav", as it is technically the trailing consonant of a previous truncated (non-existent) syllable. So the leading syllable of the first syllable "srav" of sravya is r.

Examples: Let us write each syllable in the form of "C1, V, C2 C3 C4" etc.

  1. siddhamsa = sid; dham; sa (dh is one consonant, not two) So siddhamsa = s, i, d; dh, a, m; s, a, -The three leading consonants are s, dh (dental) and s (palatal)
  2. shashtyamsa = shasht; yam; sa So shashtyamsa = sh, a, sh, t; y, a, m; s, a, We get sh (cerebral/alveolar), y and s (palatal)
  3. ashtamsa = ash, tam, sa So ashtamsa = -, a, sh; t, a, m; s, a, We get -(none), t (alveolar/cerebral), s (palatal) as the 3 consonants.
  4. akshavedamsa = ak; sha; ve; dam; sa So akshavedamsa = -, a, k; sh, a, -; v, e, -; d, a, m; s, a, -We get - sh (cerebral), v, d (dental), s (palatal).
  5. rudramsa = rud; ram; sa So rudramsa = r, u, d; r, a, m; s, a We get r, r, s (palatal) as the 3 consonants.
  6. dwadasamsa = dwa; da; sam; sa So dwadasamsa = d w, a, -; d, a, -; s, a, m; s, a, - The leading consonants are w (note), d, s, s (both palatal). The first syllable dwa is equivalent to a combination of a tuncated syllable "d" and a full syllable "wa". If there was a previous letter, starting sound d would belong to it!
  7. dwandwam = dwan; dwam So dwandwam = d w, a, n d; w, a, m The 2 leading consonants are w (note) and w. The first syllable dwan is equivalent to a combination of a tuncated syllable "d" and a full syllable "wan". If there was a previous letter, starting sound d would belong to it!

Vowels are the prana (life) of syllables and consonants the body. No syllable can exist without a vowel and each syllable will consist of exactly one vowel (one prana). The number of syllables in a word corresponds to the number of vowels. Dronacharya has o, a, a and a (drOnAchAryA). So it has 4 syllables and not two. Let us start from the end and put a boundary before the preceding consonant of each vowel. Then we get:

dronachar | yA drona | chAr | ya dro | nA | char | ya d | rO | na | char | ya

Here d is not a complete syllable, as it has no vowel. So, finally, it may be clubbed with "ro". The 4 letters are r, n, ch and y (d | Ro | Na | CHar | Ya).

If you are still confused, here is a shortcut:

Just forget syllables etc. Just look at the vowels (au, ai, oo are one vowel and not two). Take the consonant immediately before each vowel. Do this for all the vowels. This rule will allow you to get the correct sounds for nama rasi.

Understanding how syllables are formed enables you to see the logic behind this rule and also helps you appreciate the rules of Sanskrit chhandas (metrology for poetry), but it is not necessary to apply the rule.

Example: Take a hypothetical name - Alguntyolischa Find the vowels in this. I put them in capital letters here - AlgUntyOlischA. There are exactly 5 separate vowels in this word - a, u, o, i and a (in that order). Now see the consonant sound immediately preceding each vowel. There is none before the first a. There is g before u. There is y before o, l before i and ch before last a. So take these five.

This procedure should be easy to follow. More comments:

  1. Some people may mis-pronounce ou in "thousand" as avu. But that's not how most people pronounce it. Most people pronounce the vowel ou correctly. So you cannot take a consonant v there. For that matter, some people may mispronounce it as "thousandu" or "thousanda", but the most common pronunciation has no vowel at the end. Moreover, "s" in thousand is not pronounced by most people as "jh". It is closer to "j" instead. If we write it as "thoujand", there are two vowels - ou and a. The consonants immediately preceding them are th and j. The numbers are 7 and 8.
  2. The name sign is only one aspect of the name. I told you how to see the planet ruling a name based on the first letter. That's even more important. Look at that too.

May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

PS: Name is not everything. Remember that it is only ONE of the factors. Though this article concentrated on just that factor, that's not the only thing that impacts one's fortune.

PPS: A series of articles by Sanjay ji and me on a hitherto secret technique is starting in JD from May 2002. I assure that this is the most reliable technique of predictive astrology that I know of for focussed yearly predictions. Don't miss the first article of the series! It is written in the same easy style that you find in Sanjay ji's books and my book, with lots of examples thrown in. If you haven't already subscribed to JD, I strongly advise you to do it right away.

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